Zorro
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02/06/2009 12:13:17 |
I have been reading Markss thread about his situation regarding the police raid at his home and his life being turned upside down and it has inspired me to share my own story in relation to this. Seven years ago I was accused of "BEING INTO KIDS", by a group of degenerate bullies. These were a bad group of people that I had a serious falling out with before the accusations started to happen. I did nothing but yet they spread rumours everywhere I went and they told everyone that knows me that I was a pedo, a nonce etc etc - you get the picture all just to get back at me. I ignored this and got the police involved immediatley to get them to stop harrassing me and spreading rumours and I must say the police were far from helpful.... in fact when the police did visit them they told the police "why should we stop when it's true". to which the police replied "if you think it's true tell the world". This harrassment as gone on for years now and although I try and ignore it and live my life as normal as possible and hold my head up high it is extremley difficult to get away from the stigma of even just being called the names I have been called. I have had great support from my family but slowly & surly most of my friends dwindled away, not becuase they believed these hideous allagations becuase they know it isn't true but becuase they didn't want to be stood next to guy who is being accused and called names in the street.
Quote from Markss thread: - welcome markss, what a terrible time for you. I don't have any legal advice-hopefully Billy will, but I would say if you have a clear concience hold your head up high and don't hide away and give people the impression you have anything to hide. Do you have good support from family and friends?
My response to the above statement and this is my own opinion talking from a lot of experience of this situation. 'Having a clear concience and holding your head up high and not hiding away from people sounds great on paper but I can assure you the stigma will still be there, I use to carry on as normal until one day when I was out with my missus and kids and another group of lads who were friend's of friend's of the people who started all this off took offence to me being there and started shouting things about me and started saying "I've heared your into kids". I tried to confront them and say "get your facts right mate" and low and behold I get called a Pedo and end up in the hospital with a fractured skull, deaf in one ear, have to use an hearing aid for the rest of my life, suffer from tinnitus. These guys got arrested but there is always another group of guys and another group of guys and so on and so forth.
My life has been ruined by these people and there is nothing I can do about it. I am the most quiet and friendliest person anyone would ever meet and although these are good traits to have I feel it is becuase of this good nature that these people singled me out as an easy target.
So now after 7 years of total torture and torment me and my marital family are moving to a new area to start again. I only wish I had done this earlier.
p.s. I think this is a brilliant site and I will offer any advice that I can if someone is in need.
God bless
Zorro
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02/06/2009 13:17:57 |
Hi Zorro,
What a truly awful circumstance, I would have said story but it's not is it. Like many things, you wouldn't and couldn't write it. Clearly after 7 years if there had been any shred of truth in the accusations made then you would have been convicted, especially in this area of law where protection of children are involved. Obviously children do need to be protected, any accusation must be takes seriously for that reason but NOT at the expense of creating wrongly accused/convicted people. To that end on the basis of your post any officer who did say such a thing as "if you honestly believe that tell the world", is guilty of creating crime rather than preventing it.
In my opinion your situation highlights a need for false allegations to be dealt with just as seriously, after all your own children are now affected by these malicious claims as a result not you alone. Taking that into account along with the nature and obvious intent of the allegations, those who have made them are in my opinion the ones guilty of causing harm to children. Not only those who attacked you should be dealt with seriously but also those who have simply by opening their mouths and uttering such hurtful and obviously inciteful nonsense should equally be. There is no place in society for this behaviour yet simply by instantly believing these statements as soon as uttered without regard for the truth or possible motive involved society itself accepts and creates it. If anyone had been making religious or ethnic based remarks to that extent, they would be charged with inciting racial hatred, the same should be true for malicious allegations of this nature.
I truly feel for your situation and fully understand why after what has become a physical threat along with the non physical harm why you now feel you have to move somewhere else clearly to protect your own children as much as anything else. I would of course prefer if there was something I could do which would enable you to remain where you live and not feel threatened but I am one man and cannot change society alone. Only when the affected stand together and seek change in the right and legal way can anyone hope to do such a massive thing.
Welcome to the site, I only wish it was due to better circumstances.
Billy
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Zorro
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02/06/2009 13:45:56 |
Thanks Billy,
You have highlighted some great points there especially in relation to what the police said. They have encouraged this and casued a lot of pain for me without realising it. And the real sad fact is that there is no real help (other than this site I feel) for people like me who have been accused of a crime or allegation.
What I have found the most awkward thing to deal with in all this is that these people who have started these allegations are the scum of the earth. Ones a drug dealer and the other 2 are theives all of which have been conviced on many occassions caught bang to rights.
In comparrison to me a family man, whos only real crime was burning a hole in a bus stop with a sparkler when I was 13 years old and associating with horrible people when I was younger and not as wise as I am now.
When someone starts a rumor like this it spreads and spreads and gets out of control and I think people find it easier to believe it rather than dismiss it...I don't know why this is the case but it is certainly what I have experienced.
The simple fact is anyone of us is capable of starting a rumour as sickening as this but only a twisted mind would actually consider doing so and anyone reading this or who is in a similar situation or who hasn't posted on this site yet should do so.
I will be following this site and when / if I can I will make a donation.
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Justice 4 Brendan
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02/06/2009 14:32:48 |
All too familiar now, hearsay and gossip is what the police want to convince a judge in this land of anyones guilt.
All to easy for people to start gossip and for mindless few to believe these idiots, but trust me the honest and nice people will allways see through the lies.
All the best to you.
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"I hear much of people calling to punish the guilty, but few are concerned to clear the innocent" Daniel Defoe 1661-1731
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02/06/2009 15:15:21 |
I am glad you have found the site helpful if only through having somewhere to come. In terms of what the forum can achieve, providing a place where others can as you say come and post does at least give an opportunity for others can find those who have experienced similar situations and in turn find comfort simply through not feeling so alone.
But it provides valuable insight for the site too by highlighting other situations which could be addressed, clearly there are many areas already known about but prevention is always better than cure. Rest assured that where such circumstances become known about, we will where a realistic preventative measure exists petition for it's implementation as is the case with the petition to safeguard child witnesses. I simply don't believe that supporting those who need it is the only responsibility the site now has for that reason. After all if you know something bad is going to happen and you do nothing to stop it, you become part of the problem.
One thing I note from your post is your reference to a donation, this to me clearly demonstrates indisputably how much you believe the site can and does help. However I think it is important to note that this is in no way expected, those who need assistance should never feel obliged to pay for it nor will the ever be asked to. We do have some fund raising ideas to discuss when Sandra comes to Shetland which can only further our capabilities to help more. Details will be posted on the site when they have been decided on.
If there is anything you would like to discuss out with the forum, please feel free to contact us through either the private message facility or through the contact page. We will be only too pleased to help if we can. In the meantime thanks again for your post which I'm sure will in turn help others.
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SandraLean
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02/06/2009 16:26:24 |
Hello, Zorro,
I'm so sorry to hear about what's happened to you and your family. The current hysteria whipped up by the media about the "dangers to our children" encourages this sort of thing, while missing the point that, when malicious, false accusations are made, it is very often still children who suffer - the children of the falsely accused. The current buzz phrase "hate speak" seems to have been reserved solely for racially motivated comments (or football fans) yet it should definitely be an avenue open to people like yourself, who have suffered so terribly as a result of what can only be considered exactly that - hate speak, in its most vicious form.
Police encouragement of this sort of thing is very common - I've known of cases where police go from door to door, passing on rumour and innuendo under the guise of "investigation." What you say about people dwindling away because they don't want to be seen standing beside the guy who's accused of such things is an absolutely critical element of the separation, isolation and demonisation of perfectly innocent people. In one case I worked with, a child witness (aged 15) refused to change his story to the one the police wanted him to tell, because it wasn;t true, and he was adamant he wanted to tell the truth. The police got to this kid's parents and warned them "Do you know what will happen to him if he's seen to be standing up for that Ba*ta*d.?" That was even before any charges had been brought, so I know with absolute certainty that what you have said here goes on far more often than people realise.
Like everyone else here, I'd like to take this opportunity to welcome you to the site. If there is anything specific you would like our help with, as Billy says, just say the word. Otherwise, I'm sure you'll find the other posters very supportive and helpful. One of the aims of the site it to bring people together, to help and support each other, in circumstances where it is so difficult to find others who can even begin to understand. I hope we can live up to that aim for you.
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jane2452
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02/06/2009 19:02:35 |
Hi Zorro
Welcome to the site. What awful times for you and your family. It's hard to believe ones life can be well and truly turned upside down due to the wicked tongues of dangerous people, your story as far as I gather, doesn't include any charges of any description merely malitious rumours-and it sounds to me as if these have literally almost taken your life. It sounds to me as though you and your family have put up a tremendous fight and you must be very strong poeple to have done so for so long-I wish you all your best in your quest to start a new life-you really deserve it
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bigsis
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02/06/2009 21:08:22 |
Hi Zorro, Welcome all be it in terrible circumstances. A terrible time for you and your family. I am glad you say you have the support of your family and now found a site when hopefully you will get more support to help you through very difficult times that you have faced for far too long and continue to face now. I have a family so can sympathise how you must be feeling. There really is no need for such wickedness but unfortunately as i have come to learn over the past few months it happens time and time again, well done for speaking out and i wish you and your family well.
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Judge Dread
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02/06/2009 21:35:37 |
Good evening Zorro and welcome to the sites forum. It is indeed most unfortunate that you have been through and by the sound of it, are still going through difficult times and I wish you and your family better times ahead. By joining the forum you will undoubtedly realize you are not alone and hopefully gain some comfort from this site which has at the heart of it a desire to help others. Welcome.
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black
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02/06/2009 21:45:08 |
Welcome Zorro, i am sorry to hear about your situation, rumors are nasty as you have sadly realized. You and your family have proved yourselves to be strong, and it is a shame that you now feel like you have to move but when you have children and have gone through what you have you maybe its the only thing left for you, in finding this site you have come to realize you are not alone . Have you ever read Sandra Lean's book, she has written about only a few cases of injustice but it is well worth a read and makes you realize that you and your family are not alone. I wish you and your family all the best in your new start you deserve it.
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